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Trump will never be allowed to re-take the White House

By Daniel Miller | TCW Defending Freedom | November 21, 2022

Given the trials that he has already endured and the high probability of further trials to come, Donald Trump’s announcement on Tuesday that he is again running for President must be saluted. Confronted with this level of pressure, most men would have given up long ago.

Trump fights on. That’s to his credit, but in the light of what happened in the 2020 and 2022 elections, not to mention what happened to Trump and America during his first term, we should be clear about his prospects.

US political reality is now comparable to Eastern Europe in the eighties. In many ways it is worse. A totalitarian party-state controlled by fanatics and criminals today runs America, and via America dominates what was once called the free world.

Political opposition is criminalised, public art works are vandalised, independent intellectuals and scientists are censored and suppressed, child sexual abuse and self-harm is normalised, racism (under the Orwellian name anti-racism) is instigated, masked violent squadristi riot across US cities, the economy is cornered by insiders, massive demographic replacement is accelerating, and the West is entangled in perpetual war.

Meanwhile elections continue to be held periodically, as they also were in Eastern Europe and to analogous effect. Their impact is minimal and if they go the wrong way, the result is overturned or undermined. Populist, nationalist or simply uncompromised characters are replaced by puppets, gigolos and thieves. Men and women of genuine merit and courage are persecuted. A silent, cross-party agenda rolls on.

In this climate there is no chance whatsoever that Trump will be allowed to retake the White House in 2024. Even George Washington could not win national office in the US so long as the mass ballot-harvesting operation which has defined the last two elections stays in place.

Every analysis that fails to acknowledge this point can be dismissed without prejudice. In particular the predictable post-midterm claim that Trump is now an electoral albatross, repeated in unison across the same global media that brought you the safe and effective vaccines is the inversion of the truth. What these stories reveal is the opposite: that extraordinary efforts to prevent Trump from running continue. Assuming these efforts are genuine, it seems he still is the candidate the US deep state does not want to face. For this reason alone he represents the best nominee.

Trump should be President now. No matter how many times the global mafia state and their media repeats the big lie that the 2020 elections were fair, every honest man knows they were stolen. Here again the continuing efforts to suppress the truth only make it more obvious.

Two kinds of evidence are conventionally applied by observers to assess whether or not an election has been stolen: statistical anomalies and procedural irregularities. Both featured in spades in 2020, and again in 2022.

There is no way that any free people, let alone the American people, can submit to this outrage by acceding to the nomination of any alternative candidate, regardless of their own merits. Because he won in 2020 Trump must be the candidate again in 2024, and in fact the candidate in perpetuity until the normal democratic system is restored.

Trump has undeniable flaws, and made huge mistakes when he was in office. But given the circumstances, the question of his political competence is completely irrelevant. What is needed now, above all, is defiance, and Trump remains the figure best placed to embody it.

Is there any realistic possibility of the US returning to a functioning liberal democracy in the near to future? The prospect must be recognised as slim. The United States has transformed from a national to a global imperial power, complete with a new imperial flag, the synthetic rainbow flag, which it imposes on its satrapies across the world.

The story we’re living through is the story of Babel. Language is corrupted by ideological jargon and political structures are corrupted by finance. Political power is centralised, and transferred to new global institutions and structures at the same speed as national structures are liquidated.

The emergence of modern democracy was historically linked to the formation of nationalism and with the death the of nation democracy dies as well. But this also won’t be the end of the story. Since the twentieth century, to quote Jeremiah, America has been a golden cup which has made the whole earth drunk – but nobody stays drunk for ever.

November 20, 2022 - Posted by | Civil Liberties |

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  1. Accurate and succinct. Detailed the problems, or, really, the condition of America. If the next comment to be stated here seems to be what will bring forth a charge so often brought, the comment comes not from what it can be labeled, but what makes Trump a problem. And that is, Trump is as much a Chabbos goy as is Joe Biden, beholden to and at the dictates of the Zionist state and its partisans. For the latter, how he plunges deeper and deeper into an alliance with the Ukrainian oligarchy and its precipitous slid to war especially in dragging America along; if this war is not a war with Russia, if this war is not by now a partnership, then what is it? Does America need this? Does America need to send more and more money to an oligarchy which may very well skedaddle off to Israel or its villa in Italy on the Mediterranean when the Ukrainian people turn against Zelenskyy, as the Italians did against Mussolini. As to the alliance with Israel, if Israel makes war against another middle east country, in particular, Iran, it will want America to be in the forefront. It is more than willing to have America take a lead in the next war. A war for Israel, and conquest of Iran and its natural resources, to be plundered, as is current with Iraq.

    All of this is so obvious that to set it out might very well incur how Israel reacted to the American investigation of the murder of Shireen Abu Aklah: with “fury”. The real reason for fury, is the exposure of a purposeful murder. As purposeful as the murder of Rachel Corrie. The murder of the American sailors of the USSLiberty. And, very likely, the participatory murder of John F. Kennedy; as to this example, the more than circumstantial evidence is there; the issue is acknowledgment.

    As to “fury, why there is not something akin, something more rational and awakened from the American public as to how America is being manipulated into an ever widening gyre in the war with Russia is… beyond sobering.

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    Comment by michael | November 20, 2022 | Reply

    • Brilliant summation. The USA is in real trouble. Corruption of Politicians is rife, interference behind the scenes by the Israeli Lobby is always there, Israel sucks $3.8,000,000,000 $3.8 Billion/ year from the American Taxpayers and possibly more/ year from donations by Oligarchs, and what does the USA get for it? Nothing but TROUBLE. Meanwhile, millions of American people are living on the streets. WTF?
      America’s politicians cower in the face of Israel and Israel’s “Dual passport Holders” dominate the “Deep State”.

      Wake Up America, it is almost too late.

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      Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 20, 2022 | Reply

  2. From what I’ve read .2% of the funds Israel receives from the US goes to the economy & the rest goes to their military which is likely the cost necessary to ensure their existence since they’re surrounded by people who want them blown up. I’ve read how Israel invited people to stay or go when they became a nation. The Palestinians made up lies & ordered their people to leave saying they would be persecuted if they stayed, but Israel welcomed whoever stayed. I’ve read how Israel sends warnings to their boarders to enforce their boarders before using military but the Palestinians send their own children to the location to be killed so they can blame & demonize Israel. Israel itself has never been the problem. Robert Maxwell of Mossad was a problem as is ghislaine & the criminal things they did. Maxwell met & is documented & pictured with the queen. Jeffrey Epstein & ghislaine were pictured on vacation on the queens property. The criminal element has always been nazi leftist bankers & secret societies. Cia & Mossad seem to be their goons & are not doing the will of any people from our countries. Trump will do what he’s been called to do by God. Does God exist? Yes He does & that changes everything. Although what is seen is plainly interpreted & seems obvious, God is unseen & His take on things & His part in history will happen & He’s decided Trump is a two term president. See if this doesn’t become obvious to you in the next few weeks & months. Writing an article about unbelief & gloom isn’t helpful at all. Bashing Israel isn’t helpful either. The enemies of god hate Israel. It’s not wise to stand with haters. The UN & secret societies & their depopulation agenda garbage were never created by we the people & are satan loving leftists who are lawless & predatory by nature. They’re the problem, not Israel or America. Israel has the right to exist & defend themselves the same as any country does.

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    Comment by Lori | November 21, 2022 | Reply

    • “but the Palestinians send their own children to the location to be killed so they can blame & demonize Israel”

      “Surely you can’t be serious”…..Your bias is there for ALL to see.

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      Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 21, 2022 | Reply

      • I have no doubt that she has read such claims.

        The question being, why believe the unimaginable? Why not weigh both narratives and question the fantastic one?

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        Comment by aletho | November 21, 2022 | Reply

    • Sorry Lori, but you must go much further back in history to claim any legitimacy for the state of Israel. Maybe once you find that Britain promised the Zionist jews Palestinian land if they could get the US involved in WW2 would change your stance. Owning most of the media and hollywood it wasn’t difficult. Or maybe read a good book about the USS Liberty, 911 or the Beirut bombing of the marine barracks. I take insult to your defense of a terrorist state that has intentionally sacrificed innocent Americans for its own political gain

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      Comment by raggs12 | November 21, 2022 | Reply

    • [Bashing Israel isn’t helpful either.] You’re right. DESTROYING ISRAEL IS VERY VERY HELPFUL TO THE WORLD. ‘Bashing’ means they still live to murder, execute, assassinate, steal, oppress, terrorize, genocide…LOL let’s do more than ‘Bashing’ please. btw…the word is BORDERS…which btw the illegitimate butcher’s occupying Palestine HAS NOT DECLARED. So that means YOU ARE OCCUPIERS. GTFO!!! Your ‘god’ is a LIAR and your father is the father of LIES. Take this into account…this American HATES YOU AND ALL YOUR EVIL SH*T. Your judgement does not lay idle.

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      Comment by Sparrow | November 21, 2022 | Reply

    • Since ‘Laura’ is an avid ‘reader’…take this video into account to prove ‘Laura’ reads what tel aviv gives.

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      Comment by Sparrow | November 21, 2022 | Reply

      • Excellent video Sparrow. Israel is out of control and bunch of cowards

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        Comment by raggs12 | November 21, 2022 | Reply

  3. For those who may not know the story, the Tower of Babel was started but never finished. Its builders were the ancient equivalent of today’s globalists, and their aim was to create a controlling one-world government and a monument to symbolise it – the Tower of Babel. They had two advantages: one language, and close living proximity of all humans at that time. The ramifications of this action did not escape the attention of the Creator, who said:
    “Behold the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do”. (Genesis 11:6).
    Our Creator recognised that this was the natural tendency of human nature, which, if allowed, would destroy the world in very short time – similar to the dystopian plans of today’s globalists – and also disrupt the plan of God for mankind. Consequently, by the act of creating different languages for different tribal or familial groups, our Creator brought about a situation whereby communication, and hence co-operation, were completely destroyed, and the building discontinued. Additionally, language confusion was instrumental in the migration of those tribal and familial groups – to get away from the ‘madness’ of people who did not speak the same language.

    So the One World Order came to nothing in a way that was totally unexpected. By the same token, there is every hope that today’s globalists will find that their ‘Tower of Babel’ is utterly destroyed by methods that they do not see coming, and that the builders are brought to justice.

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    Comment by Bill Francis | November 21, 2022 | Reply

    • Bang on – Nimrod all over again – but the feet of nebuchadnezzar’s
      statue – iron and clay – dont mix well and are smashed on the Christ’s return

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      Comment by charles allan | November 21, 2022 | Reply

  4. This article brings to the front some excellent points and is very well written. Thank you and congratulations. Although I do not possess a pessimistic nature, under our present circumstances I do not see us escaping the complete globalist takeover, simply because there are still too many people who remain voluntarily blind and therefore compliant. Too many people believed the covid propaganda in 2019/20 and rushed to be injected, and now pride stands in the way of admitting error. We know that “pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall”. Prov16:18. Consequently those folks will bring the new Dark Ages upon this globe.

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    Comment by Peter | November 21, 2022 | Reply

    • I agree Peter. Way to much division, brainwashing, pride, ego’s and greed to unite any critical mass and make a difference. This is why we see continual onslaught no matter how irrational or unscientific their claims are. But on the other side is the waiting game of a savior or politician to make everything good. 1000 years equals 1 day in the eyes of the creator

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      Comment by raggs12 | November 21, 2022 | Reply

      • “But on the other side is the waiting game of a savior or politician to make everything good. 1000 years equals 1 day in the eyes of the creator”.

        Too late, JFK wanted to take America back again and look what happened to him…..Shot llike a dog, in front of the World’s TV cameras……

        And…..When it comes to “9/11”, America’s politicians must have their suspicions about “who did it”, but, they are all “as quiet as a Nun’s fart” about the ridiculous explanation that it was done by a gang of Arabs.

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        Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 21, 2022 | Reply

      • True is what you say, but I don’t believe that we are waiting for a politician or a Messiah type of savior to come and save us. I have no reason to trust any politician, so it will come down to whether of not the masses will wake up in time to resist the Schwabs and company. The true Messiah has already come and gone and some will choose to trust and follow him but the majority won’t. The mess we are in right now is our own fault, and what is happening looks like the built-in, just punishment from God.

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        Comment by Peter | November 21, 2022 | Reply

        • No offence meant, but if you think that there is a man, floating around in Space, who will save us all from evil etc etc, well, good luck with that idea. God/Religion, is completely illogical, and utterly unverifiable. It simply makes no sense.

          “Where is the evidence? No one speaks of faith that 2 +2 =4, or that the Earth is round. We only speak of faith when we wish to substitute emotion for evidence”……Bertrand Russell.

          Whatever happens on this Planet happens because of “people”.

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          Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 21, 2022 | Reply

          • Not here to usurp anyone’s belief…but to answer your question “Where is the evidence?”
            Creation is the evidence. And no unlimited amount of science can usurp that. All that science can do is point to a Divine Intelligence.

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            Comment by Sparrow | November 21, 2022 | Reply

            • “creation is the evidence”. A simple but most effective answer. True science (not Fauci science) says that matter does not beget matter, and I must agree that I have never seen a female pet rock give birth to little rocklings. So, if anyone loves the idea that Biblical claims are rubbish, please demonstrate your alter wisdom but postulating how the Universe got started out of nothing. Nothing does not produce “something” and even the likes of Stephen Hawking never made the gaffe of stating such.

              Or, if you claim that there must have been something like the Higgs boson from which to start it,…….prove it. Not in the future, if and when the accelerator in Switzerland suggests alleged facts. Continue proving that life was created by some strike of lightning on some primordial soup, an experiment actually conducted by doctors Miller and Urey, with dismal results. Instead of constantly doubting and trying to disprove everything, try to come up with valid arguments that support alternate positions. Please give the positive argument for what you believe, rather than constantly trying to tear down more valid ones.

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              Comment by Peter | November 21, 2022 | Reply

            • “Where is the evidence”? was part of Bertrand Russel’s quote. He was asking where is the ‘tangible’ evidence of some Biblical being called Christ?

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              Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 23, 2022 | Reply

              • As I said brian – even most atheists believe in the story they just dont believe Jesus was the son of God with all God’s power of creation to perform miracles.

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                Comment by charles allan | November 23, 2022 | Reply

                • “Your statement that the Greek text says “forgive them not, for they know what they do” is so bizarre that I gave it some more thought”.

                  I did not make that statement. Biblical quotes are meaningless to me. I take no notice of them, but, if you get something from them, well, good for you.
                  I prefer to deal with reality.

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                  Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 23, 2022 | Reply

                  • Well, if you prefer to deal with reality, I invite you to present something that is “reality” to you. For starters, please give us your idea of how the material universe came into being. If you say “I don’t know”, then you allow for the possibility that it was created by an all powerful being who preceded the universe.

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                    Comment by peter | November 23, 2022 | Reply

                • Hey Brian,

                  You seek evidence for Christ’s Deity. I am sure that you believe that the universe just came into being in some mysterious undefined way, all by itself. Or you might believe that it always existed, though science denies that. Or that life arose spontaneously from the primordial soup. Will you please provide an argument, on any topic, that makes sense and is backed by evidence? Just tearing down things that you don’t like or understand really does not make your point at all.

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                  Comment by Peter | November 23, 2022 | Reply

                  • I can’t be bothered arguing about something that is as ridiculous as religion. “Who made GOD”?….

                    “Hell is empty, and All the Devils are Here”(on Earth)….Shakespeare, the Tempest.

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                    Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 23, 2022 | Reply

                    • Well, perhaps you have not had the opportunity to contemplate these matters sufficiently to draw the correct conclusions. Perhaps you don’t care to. But the simple logic is this. Scientists uniformly agree that something does not come from nothing, and that all events have causality. Science also agrees that matter does not beget matter. The 2nd law of thermodynamics, specifically entropy, generally states that order disintegrates toward disorder, not the other way around, so a beginning from a preexisting dot into a fantastic universe is scientifically impossible within the laws of nature as we currently know them. So if you contemplate the complexity of life, in all of its forms, you have no “intelligent” choice but to conclude that a power that is non material designed and created the universe. Nothing else makes sense. The most challenging thought for all is that God always existed and nothing created Him. But that is more easily accepted when you understand that he also created time, which is totally and fundamentally connected to motion, and therefore energy or matter. Apart from motion (something changing location, whether an electron or a galaxy) you have no way to perceive tine. It is really all very interesting once you get your mind involved with it. I am not talking about the empty word “religion”, but rather about Majestic Deity and his awesome creation, who has put purpose into all of this works and into every human being. It is man who refuses to open his understanding. Instead, man conjures up all sorts of theories regarding the presence of the Universe, the age of the earth, that life originated from interaction of matter and evolved into the complex being called “mankind”, and so forth.

                      This is a tragedy because man is missing out not only all the amazing things that are to be observed, but also participation in God’s plan to reconcile to Himself a minority of humans who turn to Him, as He also plans to eventually end the whole Universe. As I read your writings you come across as a man who has nothing to believe in, no hope for the future, no enlightenment of any kind. Nothing except the feeling of annoyance, that you flinch against. That is a sad state to exist in.

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                      Comment by Peter | November 24, 2022

          • No offense is taken to comments that arise from ignorance of the evidence, only empathy. As just one example shows, Isaiah the prophet lived and prophesied about 750 years before Christ, yet he pinpointed much of what describes Jesus the person, his birth place, his appointed mission and manner of death. Such precision defies all the laws of chance and probability, but there are many other such examples, such as Daniel’s prophecies, in which he quotes the angel as saying that the shaggy goat is the king of Greece. He stopped short of naming him as Alexander. We can go on and on, if a person is truly interested in fact, but not if the aim is simply to make a defamatory statement that others are supposed to accept and believe. Don’t trust all of the stuff than men claim. Do some real research and validated what they say based on real history. Have you heard of the Dead Sea scrolls, and specifically about the Isaiah scroll?

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            Comment by Peter | November 21, 2022 | Reply

            • A prophesy does not require a God.

              btw I don’t mind if people read or quote the Bible, just don’t make it look like absolute truth.

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              Comment by Balthasar Gerards | November 22, 2022 | Reply

              • Balthasar, please think of what you have just said. A prophecy, by definition, is a statement made by a person that God has chosen to be his spokesperson, whom he also inspires to speak for him. I know that the word has morphed to mean all sorts of other things, just as the word love has. Secondly, if God has indeed said something, you can count on it being the absolute truth. Only man speaks in what he thinks is relative truth. something is either true or false….there are no in between, unless you can point to a half pregnant woman.

                You have the right to believe in unicorns, if you so elect. After all, why would they not be an extinct product of evolution, through the merging of a horse with a hippopotamus? But if you have the time, go back and read Darwin’s “origin of the species”, where even he himself cautions that if intermediate forms (missing links) of evolutionary change are not found in excavations, his whole theory collapses. Yet people with white coats and university professors like Richard Dawkins teach trans special evolution with a straight face without the slightest of evidence.

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                Comment by Peter | November 22, 2022 | Reply

        • I agree with Peter that fixing the situation we are in now requires the people to unite and take it back. There is no savior or politician that will do it for us. But I don’t think the blame is ours. I call it the boiled frog syndrome. The tyrant bastards have been at this for a long time, as noted with the Sumerians and the tower of babel.
          I also agree with Brian which is a topic of much research. The Christian bible was written by the Hebrews in Babylon while in captivity. There is no history of hebrews in captivity by the Egyptians who kept meticulous records which makes the story of Moses unbelievable. All of the bible stories coincide with the Sumerian clay tablets. The book, or any religion for that matter, is not factual and worthy of faith or devotion.
          So the jews wrote a book claiming themselves to be the chosen people of God. They have inherent property rights because they claimed so in a book. Not one of them believes in that book but they will make claim to the words.
          I am not claiming to be a believer in this but give it a try
          https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-1-universal-father

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          Comment by raggs12 | November 21, 2022 | Reply

  5. “There is no history of hebrews in captivity by the Egyptians who kept meticulous records which makes the story of Moses unbelievable”.

    Especially the bit where Moses parted the Red Sea……..Even Netanyahu never tried to pull that stunt……

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    Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 21, 2022 | Reply

    • But thats the story when God promised them the land. Did you read the article that the Israeli trespassers are building jewish cemeteries so they can claim a history to the land? Talk about going to extremes to deceive people. Children of God my ASS

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      Comment by raggs12 | November 21, 2022 | Reply

    • The beauty and gloriousness of God’s attitude toward man is that he has given to each of us the freedom to believe what we choose. However, as Solomon warns, we shall all be called to give an account for all of our choices. If you feel that there is a lack of historical evidence, and deny the clear statements of Jesus and the Apostles in which they speak of the captivity, the flood, destruction of Sodom, Moses and exodus, you are free to harbor such beliefs. That, of course, leaves you with nothing to believe in or hope for. Nothing at all. You will die, just as everything living will die, and nothing you ever thought or did will have mattered……or so people want to believe, because it gives them the illusion of freedom from any moral restraint, put on them by a superior being. If you want to believe that there are no records of Egyptian captivity, you will certainly find authors to provide you with arguments. In fact, today we have arguments that there are more than two genders and some folks will gobble that up.

      The Bible, when studied carefully, honestly, and meticulously re-enforces itself since it was written over millennia, by authors who resided in several continents, spoke different languages, mostly did not know each other or of each other, and were reaffirmed and validated by Jesus himself. When you are finished with the arguments of modern men, regarding the authenticity of the scriptures, what hope do you have? You confuse the Jews of antiquity with today’s claimants at Judaism, and that is a total error. While God chose a nation through which he would bring forth the Messiah, old Judaism, the initial choice of God was replaced by the kingdom (reign) of his son Jesus, after he ascended back to Heaven and brought on the end of Jerusalem and the old order. Put in modern terminology, Jesus caused a “reset” of who constitutes true Judaism today. There will never be an end to human speculation and arguments intended to invalidate true Christianity, but real students of this matter do arrive at correct conclusions. I hope that you eventually arrive at such too, while you have the time.

      One of the most glorious, encouraging passages for me is John11:25. Ponder it for a while. You might also look at John12:48-49. As we have all seen, man can do nothing but create misery for his fellow man, sickness, poverty, premature death, war, constant deception. If that is not the work of the devil, please show me what is. Why would you want to believe and follow men, when you have witnessed their fallacies, deceptions, weaknesses and corruption?

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      Comment by Peter | November 21, 2022 | Reply

      • I respect your approach. There were no jews of antiquity, they were hebrews. The bible is based on multiple scriptures, mostly before Jesus and the one after Jesus were mostly second or third hand accounts. The most recent written around AD 80.
        There is no record of hebrews enslaved in Egypt nor any record of Joseph. A non-Egyptian reaching his important status and saving them from starvation during a famine and drought would have surely been mentioned. But there is record of a very similar story of exodus when a Pharaoh was exiled with his monotheist followers.
        The scriptures were written mostly in Greek, the common language of the day. Have you read the Greek Orthodox version prior to the translation into hebrew? Do you know that the last words of Jesus in your bible is “forgive them father, for they know not what they have done” and in the Greek untranslated version is “forgive them not father, for they know what they have done”. One rearranged word changes the entire meaning. This is not the only discrepancy, there are multiple.
        Honestly Peter, I do believe in a creator and his son Jesus. But I don’t believe in man made books or religions. I don’t believe either is required to establish a relationship with either one. The kingdom of God is inside each of us, not some wonderful place that we go to when we die. I think that is part of the deception also to accept the suffering thinking death with bring glory and love and peace.
        I have one question for you. Are you a Jehovah’s witness?

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        Comment by raggs12 | November 21, 2022 | Reply

        • Thank you for your comments. Would you please give me some source from which you have received your information, so that I can look at it myself? Αν προτιμας, συνεχιζουμε αυτην την συζητηση στα Ελληνικα. What would be your preference?
          You are speaking with a Greek, born, raised and educated in Athens, so, yes, I do have a little familiarity with the Greek text.

          I know that there were no Jews in antiquity, but we have come to refer to the old times as the Judaic times. The fact is that all the scriptures were written over a period of several thousand years by different authors who lived under different empires, across different continents and strangely…….they all have a common theme…”someone is coming”. How can this be a coincidence? How could this be rigged?

          Your argument against the authenticity of the scriptures because they were second or third generation accounts, recorded around AD 80 lacks validity. There are enough texts, artifacts from excavations and letters written by contemporaries of the Apostles John and Peter, such as Clement of Rome who was a disciple of both. Are you suggesting that all 66 books of the OT and NT are false constructions by people in later times? But rather than engage you in a tit for tat conversation about what constitutes evidence, please explain how you can believe in God and his son, yet reject the validity of the scriptures, to which Jesus pointed the Pharisees in the statement…. “you search the scriptures, because in them you think you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of me”……..Jn 5:39. Was Jesus deluded in his statement or was this also part of the falsification that came in later times?

          Where do you get your stated belief that the kingdom of God is in each one of us? What about your stated belief in God and his son? Where did these beliefs come from? Books? Which books?

          How many people can you identify, who would endure a life of persecution and poverty, ending in a torturous death, for preaching a total fantasy? Would you do it? Just asking.

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          Comment by Peter | November 22, 2022 | Reply

        • Sorry, I forgot to answer your last question. No, I am not a Jehovah’s Witness. I am simply someone who has studied the Bible for a little over 47 years and familiar with a lot of the arguments against them. Such arguments intend to create cracks in the message, by folks who have written all sorts of books and theses, and none of them are usually too serious at knowing truth. Kind of like the story about covid, these days.

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          Comment by Peter | November 22, 2022 | Reply

        • There is lots of evidence of the Hebrews in Egypt and of the exodus – hieroglyphics on the pyramid ruins – mass grave of the first sons – desecrated joseph’s statue still with paint remains of his multicoloured coat – Joshua’s temple – the split rock showing water egress – burnt top of mountain that moses climbed in saudi (helen , constantine’s mother chose the wrong sinai ). There are good videos of the journey out of egypt made by archeological team – easy to find. The catholic site ‘ most holy family monastery hosts these videos .

          Could you imagine if the newspapers waited 50 years to report the death of president kennedy – oops we forgot to cover that ? .

          The gospels were written at the time of the crucifixion by the apostles who were with Jesus – they may have taken time to canonise them but they were written immediately after .

          There is plenty of other corroboration . Even atheists believe a man called Jesus was crucified at that time AND the date of the
          crucifixion was exactly prophecied by daniel centuries before and verified datewise by the dead sea scrolls not written after the event
          as the ‘professors say’.

          Jesus predicted exactly what would happen to the temple before He died around 33 AD – thats how the christians knew to escape into edom and avoid the holocaust (josephus).
          The christians who doubted were shown such mercy and they also
          ran over the rooftops into edom without collecting anything downstairs – you could do this. Vespasian called Titus back to rome and this gave the second batch of believers the chance .

          This is a double prophecy and the same will happen again for the jews trying to escape the antichrist who will attack Jerusalem.

          The bible fits perfectly together – not one letter out of place in the original hebrew and greek or Aramaic – so easy to find with the internet
          God tells us to read and contemplate the word of God in the OT and NT – MORNING NOON AND NIGHT or we will know nothing and be led into a ditch.

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          Comment by charles allan | November 23, 2022 | Reply

        • I would sure like to see a “cut and paste” of the Hebrew copy that you are referring to, prior to its translation into the Greek. That should not be hard to do at all. In my previous message I mentioned the Septuagint (error) since it only contains the OT. But please put some proof into your claims, otherwise they will, of course, remain idle, nonsensical claims.

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          Comment by Peter | November 23, 2022 | Reply

    • Brian,
      Your statement that the Greek text says “forgive them not, for they know what they do” is so bizarre that I gave it some more thought. I have never, ever heard such a claim and still will research it to see if some error exists. But it sounds outlandish on the face of it since Jesus came to the earth for the express purpose of dying as a payment for the sins of any and all who would believe and repent. No exceptions were indicated. It is far from the personality of Jesus to make such a request. You seem to have a bunch of additional convictions that I have never heard before.

      If some version got the words mixed up, that would not be grounds to throw generations of fulfilled prophecy aside, so that a lone wolf can think that he has disproven the Bible.

      If you have actually seen such a verse with your own eyes, in the Septuagint or other version, please copy it and post it here so that it is visible with all surrounding text. If it is just something that you have read somewhere, there is no point to discuss it further.

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      Comment by Peter | November 23, 2022 | Reply

      • It would mean that Jesus had no mercy and that none of the people in the crowd calling for His death were saved – but there were plenty who were saved in this crowd who turned and believed such as the Roman soldier so this lie is proved a lie

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        Comment by charles allan | November 23, 2022 | Reply

        • I keep inviting Brian to quote the source of this piece of new knowledge, but he will not do it.

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          Comment by Peter | November 23, 2022 | Reply

    • If God could not part the red sea after making the universe in six days he would not be a God . The record of the exodus is there for all to study – even the ruins of Jericho are there – there are lots of you tube videos.
      Brian if you had been at the foot of the cross would you have shouted ‘ save yourself and come down off the cross if you are the son of God’ ?
      But then if He had there would be no sacrifice for our sins and we would die in them

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      Comment by charles allan | November 23, 2022 | Reply

      • Have you 2 lost your minds? Are you so infatuated and brainwashed with “your” religion that you need to get your friends when someone disputes your beliefs? Believe what you want but pushing your beliefs on others is an invasion of Liberty

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        Comment by raggs12 | November 24, 2022 | Reply

        • You are pushing your religion which is evolutionary atheism on believers in Jesus – so can you tell me why you are allowed to get away with cancelling others but no one is allowed to challenge you. No i dont need anyone’s support – i can defend my beliefs . You have had Darwinism rammed down your throat and have obviously swallowed this baseless theory hook line and sinker.
          If you decide to post but dont want a debate then why stay on the site.

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          Comment by charles allan | November 24, 2022 | Reply

          • You can say what you like. Your Christian opinion is totally unimportant to me(and millions of other athiests) whatsoever. If you want a “massdebate”, do so with your friends…….goodbye.

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            Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 24, 2022 | Reply

            • Your ‘ I dont want to insult people’s belief ‘ mask did not take long to fall off. The mobs that surrounded Jesus and his apostles
              calling for their deaths were more numerous than his supporters
              since ‘only a few will find the way ‘ .

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              Comment by charles allan | November 25, 2022 | Reply

  6. No one is pushing anything on anyone. We are all stating our beliefs that can be considered or rejected. If you believe that there is no God, fine, but give us some intelligent reasoning with solid arguments to back it up and we will consider them. Truth has nothing to fear. If you have it, spit it out. But so far, all you have done is expressed your disapproval of Bible believers and shown contempt for scripture. You don’t sound like a very happy man! To state that the expression of our belief is and invasion of others’ Liberty is pretty high on the insanity scale. If anyone has liberty, it means that anyone can say what he wishes and others can accept or reject. When you get to the point where only the government can tell you what you must believe, and punish you if you object (and you are helping it get there) then we are all slaves.

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    Comment by Peter | November 24, 2022 | Reply

    • Nonsense, and your agenda is transparent. You make assumptions and then guess my happiness and insult me with insanity. You’ve now made this personal. Take your bible thumping ideology and phycological meanderings elsewhere. You must work for the gooberment.

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      Comment by raggs12 | November 24, 2022 | Reply

      • You might be harry as well ? Angry when defeated by logical argument – just like the vax zealots

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        Comment by charles allan | November 24, 2022 | Reply

    • I do not wish to waste any more time arguing with an Idiot. Your religious beliefs mean nothing to me. Do me a favour and “Piss Off”……

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      Comment by brianharryaustralia | November 24, 2022 | Reply

      • Why dont you piss off harry and give us a break

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        Comment by charles allan | November 24, 2022 | Reply

      • Well, from your eloquent response it is clear that you do not have any logical and sound arguments to support your atheist or other positions. It is rather comical that I, whom you label as an idiot, am the one proposing an intelligent discussion based on facts, while you resort to lashing out with epithets.

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        Comment by Peter | November 25, 2022 | Reply

  7. Well, Brian and Raggs, may I suggest that we all go back and re-read all the posts on this subject and determine who are the ones that seem disturbed by all of this. Who is it that is aggravated by, and curses his opposition in a two line response? Who is it that, although challenged to provide evidence for a stated position, completely refuses to do so, and continues to rant aggressively. Look in the mirror and applaud yourselves. If Charles and I are infuriating you, as we seem to be, the simplest solution is to simply disengage from the conversation, but you just can’t do that, can you? It is too juicy to continue, piling up more profanity and adjectives on the opposition, as if that could possibly make you look more intelligent, educated, and psychologically balanced. If you resent discussion that seeks to pull out the truth now, what will you do when, thanks to your attitude, the totalitarian boot is in your face and you are told what you can or cannot say, and your only response can be “Yes Sir/Madam leader, whatever you say. If you say white is black, then it surely must be so”. Already we have medical and other institutions referring to the “birthing person” rather than the mother and other such insanity, so the re-education is under way.

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    Comment by Peter | November 25, 2022 | Reply

    • Your both delusional and aggressive religious fanatics. Piss off

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      Comment by raggs12 | November 25, 2022 | Reply

      • Your highly complimentary response, so eloquently phrased, is much valued and greatly appreciated. We have all learned much from your comments and I will back off to give myself the time to deeply contemplate your wisdom.

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        Comment by Peter | November 25, 2022 | Reply

      • Do you think that Jesus was aggressive and delusional ? If there is a God how can it be delusional to believe in Him as billions have done and still do ? Would you be brave enough to call muslim believers delusional or would you quietly slink away.

        Hard to believe your more than 10 years old or you possibly might be brian in another avatar
        Enjoy your eternity with dawkins and darwin

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        Comment by charles allan | November 25, 2022 | Reply

        • Both of you behave just like brainwashed children

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          Comment by raggs12 | November 25, 2022 | Reply

          • But you are a brainwashed Darwinist – believing the evolutionary hype that your ancestor came from a single cell in a sea puddle
            even although no evidence of transitional links exists.

            Believing in something without evidence is what you accuse others of – but you are the brainwashed one – it is your defence mechanism to accuse others.

            My beliefs are based on evidence – scientific as well as archeological evidence but you believe that a T Rex dino evolved into a sparrow – lol – deranged .

            Billions of great minds , simple minds , kings , queens , scientists
            have believed in God – but you are easily deceived – when the
            one world dictator appears as prophesied will you be amongst the
            rejoicing crowd ?

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            Comment by charles allan | November 25, 2022 | Reply

            • Yup, a child for sure. Forgive then not father for believing in a false god called a bible “translated” by the evil ones, the jews

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              Comment by raggs12 | November 25, 2022 | Reply

              • The bible was written by the Holy Spirit through the prophets . The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are one with each other. Jesus
                said whoever blasphemes the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this world or the next – so please avoid doing this.
                Only those jews and gentiles who accept Jesus as lord and master are allowed into the kingdom .
                Why on earth would God create a fake bible to lead people away from him. Your thinking power is desolate ??

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                Comment by charles allan | November 25, 2022 | Reply

                • Charles, you are trying to reason with someone who absolutely does not want to consider anything beyond his desired and preselected views. Reasoning (critical thinking) is not his desire or to his liking. He simply provides amusement to you, me and others, for as long as we are allowed the freedom to exchange such communication. So I propose that we enjoy the sport while we can.

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                  Comment by Peter | November 25, 2022 | Reply

                  • Yup, your agenda is transparent, its a sport. But your sport takes 2 to play as neither is able to stand on their own. Pussies

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                    Comment by raggs12 | November 25, 2022 | Reply

                    • Did you have a chance to look up Psalm 14:1?

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                      Comment by Peter | November 25, 2022

                    • Hey Raggs,
                      Something that we did not discuss is the fact that “Atheism” is also a religion, under the general definition of what constitutes religion. But without God in it, atheism is a religion of “humanism”, where a society is run according to human values.
                      Accordingly, ethics and morality are what the current mob of society wants to call them, subject to constant change, as those in power change. The Nazi extermination ovens were an example of such values and religion. As a logical person can readily see (I do not accuse you of this) today’s human morality wants us to believe that killing babies in the womb is a righteous thing, because it honors a woman’s right to her own body. The word “murder” does not enter the discussion here, because we are not concerned about that other life, called the baby. Oh, but we campaign for “black lives matter”, and most of the aborted babies are black babies. Likewise, Big Pharma and our Health governance institutions (FDA, CDC, NIHID, etc) are not concerned about maiming or killing recipients of their vaxxes because making big bucks is the aim and moral goal. Sooner or later, this kind of thinking will render a judgment against you that you don’t like or agree with, but some other human thinks that it’s ok because he benefits from it. Today we are being told that there are more than two sexes. What if tomorrow someone decides to castrate you and give you estrogen because he thinks that you would be a nice mistress for him? You won’t be able to appeal to any justice by God, whom you reject. If you trust man, especially after the events of the last two years, you must be living on Mars or elsewhere. So don’t give me that “non-religious” garbage, because you are every bit as religious as the next man. You have simply chosen a failing religion.

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                      Comment by Peter | November 25, 2022

                  • Because I choose not to believe in a particular religion or their version of a bible that goes with it, does not make me an Atheist as you so quickly accuse. The 2 of you presume that if one doesn’t have your beliefs they some how are a follower and obedient servants of the system. You then find it acceptable to insult me personally just like the roman cathodic church did when I was young. If I knew where you lived I would be at your front door

                    I will ask one question for you to contemplate. Both of you refer to the creator as God. The word God is a title and is plural. He has a name but none of these “bibles” use it, its been removed. Your lack of using his name indicates you have not done much research past the bible you adhere to. Almost every scripture written before Jesus that he refers to, gives the creator a name.
                    The claims made about the dead sea scrolls is not evidence. Found, harbored and “authenticated” by the deceitful ones. Nothing like a little reinforcing once is while to keep the masses stupefied. The same deceitful ones who have Christians praying to some/any God. The same deceitful ones who “translated” the bible.
                    And you apparently are a holohoax believer, contrived by the deceitful ones. So to me you both wouldn’t know truth or facts or evidence if it bit you in the ass. Both of you need to do some serious research and stop believing everything your told.
                    Good bye, done with this nonsense.

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                    Comment by raggs12 | November 26, 2022 | Reply

                    • Well, thanks for taking some time to explain your perceptions to us, and I sincerely mean that I appreciate it. Since you wrote quite a bit about the Name of God, without naming him yourself, I am guessing that you are a Jehovah’s Witness, which is your choice of Biblical interpretation. But from the way in which you have conducted yourself throughout this dialog, it was only natural for us to assume that you are an atheist. I also have to assume that you know how and why the Hebrews dropped consonants from Jahweh, as an act of piety, so that we don’t know, for sure, what the name really was and is. As for interpretations of the scriptures, barring a select few that are difficult and confusing, therefore subject to different interpretation, such as Mt 24/25 for instance, all other liberties in interpretation are the result of people wanting to prevail in their particular preconceived opinion. The scriptures that deal with God’s plan of salvation are crystal clear, yet folks twist them about s much as they have twisted the truth about covid, etc. I am always interested in hearing another person’s point of view, provided he has thought it out and can offer logical arguments in support of his position. Also expect that he will listen and contemplate my arguments too. Remember that this universe will eventually be destroyed and time will be no more. It seems quite absurd that the eternal God (Jehovah) would create human beings and destine them to live from a few days to a few decades on this earth, just so that He can dispense of them forever at death. Eternity is real because God is eternal.

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                      Comment by Peter | November 26, 2022

                    • Sort of nonsensical reply – God has many names in the OT but is the ONE same God – this is no secret .
                      Your the one who started the insults .
                      The dead sea scrolls DO authenticate the bible as do hundreds of other references .
                      There was certainly a holocaust although the numbers were probably exaggerated by russian propagandists . Many were holocausted by the ruling rich and powerful jews to persuade them to go back to Israel which Hitler encouraged up to the Wannsee conference. Adolph Eichmann did not deny the holocaust and in Russia most killing was done by bullet by SS groups .

                      Jesus accused the sanhedrin pharisees and sadducees who rejected Him as messiah as liars and murderers and called them the synagogue of satan – which authenticates the prophecies about him but his apostles were all Jews at first.

                      You have done very little study – just any insult will do for you .
                      To think that an all powerful creator God could not do miracles and be unable to give us perfect scripture is ridiculous.

                      This incredible power is demonstrated by the scribes fastidious double checks when they wrote the scrolls exactly as the Holy Spirit dictated , not a dot or tittle out of place, even though the scriptures testified against them. I am talking about the Torah
                      here not the Talmud of their made up traditions which Jesus
                      spoke against .
                      There is only one God and not one letter of the law and the prophets is out of place in the original unadulterated translations.
                      Your letting the devil deceive you .

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                      Comment by charles allan | November 26, 2022

          • Hey Raggs, and fellow atheists,

            You are right, Charles and I are a couple of brainwashed children, believing in creation and all that nonsense, whereas life ex nihilo and a 50 quazillion year evolutionary process does make more sense. Today I realized that, when I went to get some firewood from a two year old woodpile. As I pulled off some logs, I came across a good quantity of soft, dried moss, some frayed pieces of string, small twigs and leaves, all tightly intertwined, and concluded that this was a nest that rodents or birds built. But then I stopped cold in my tracks and had a serious dialog with myself.

            “Peter, did you see any rodents or birds coming and going to the woodpile with all those building materials? No! did you see any rodents or birds coming and going with food in their mouths? No!…..So you are drawing a conclusion with no conclusive evidence whatsoever that this was a nest. Did the pile of debris have a definite form to suggest a nest? No!…….You see then that this accumulation of these natural substances, including the frayed string in a single spot in the woodpile is more likely the result of winds blowing moss and leaves from the lawn to that spot, up between the logs, and twigs from distant trees and string off the deck also being blown into that spot. This probably happened over a period of at least 23 million years. And if something as simple as that “alleged” nest happened by evolutionary chance, then certainly something as complex as the eye developed the same way.
            If you possess a Bible, you might look up…….Psalm 14:1

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            Comment by Peter | November 25, 2022 | Reply

  8. Raggs,
    Again Charles has given you a well thought out reply. Referring to a non-holocaust seems quite strange to me, since I personally visited the camp at Dachau in 1972, and since a close Jewish friend of my mother was one of those who was rescued from Auschwitz. Such facts are hard to dispute. You motivate me to go through old photographs to see if I have any of Dachau, if they allowed photography in those days.

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    Comment by Peter | November 26, 2022 | Reply


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