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  1. Hasn’t Lomborg said that there’s no harm in depleting the world’s fish stocks, because we have fish farming? I think I’ve read that in one of his books. If so, that’s enough in itself to show that he’s either dishonest or a nut case.

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    Comment by traducteur | May 3, 2015 | Reply

    • Maybe you should confirm your smear rather than just post a baseless ad hominem. Perhaps you were the victim of your own credulousness in the face of the “ten years of a concerted effort by Greens to demonize Lomborg” mentioned in the article.

      If you can’t counter his argument you have no legitimate comment to offer. You are, in fact, acceding to his position as being unassailable.

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      Comment by aletho | May 3, 2015 | Reply

      • Hi, Aletho. See The Skeptical Environmentalist (Cambridge University Press, 2001), p. 108. Cheers.

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        Comment by traducteur | May 3, 2015 | Reply

        • Well, Amazon won’t show that page without payment and an internet search only results in a detractor making the same, likely misconstrued, claim you are perhaps repeating. We will have to assume it is baseless until shown otherwise.

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          Comment by aletho | May 3, 2015 | Reply

          • He thinks the catastrophic “Green Revolution” was a terrific advance too (ibid, p. 63). No need to demonize him, he demonizes himself.

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            Comment by traducteur | May 3, 2015 | Reply

            • I’m sure that you read plenty of authors that are not skeptical abut the green revolution. Among scientists that position is almost ubiquitous. If you choose to ignore all scientists you are left with very limited perspectives.

              Look, I have the same problem, I have very little respect for people who fail to understand that nuclear energy is not only immoral but simply uneconomic.

              Scientists on both sides of the AGW issue, practically without exception, support nuclear power. I could choose to remain totally ignorant about AGW and base my opinion on total gobbledygook feelings, or I could accept that climate scientists are neither economists nor philosophers and that scientists and engineers are inherently weak minded since they generally have a very narrow focus. We all have strengths and weaknesses.

              Instead of writing scientists off altogether, I choose to value their input within their particular area of expertise. Lomborg is a climate scientist, this is his area of interest.

              I still think that you have been taken in by someone’s misrepresentation of Lomborg’s position on fish populations. You ought to get the book at the library and find out.

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              Comment by aletho | May 3, 2015 | Reply

              • Come now, would I be referring you to passages from it if I hadn’t read it? I read it years ago, and it left me with with the utmost loathing for Lomborg and everything he stands for. He advocates hi-tech, chemical-dependent, GR agriculture (he thinks it’s “more productive”), and shows no concern for, or even awareness of, such adverse impacts as poisoned air, water, land, crops and people, permanently degraded soil, malnutrition, or the social catastrophe of millions of peasants being dispossessed, forced off their farms and transformed into an impoverished urban proletariat, while the land that formerly sustained them and their families is cultivated by giant agribusiness corporations growing cash crops for export. As noted, he’s also a great fan of fish farming, and again shows no interest in or awareness of the severe damage that it inflicts on the marine environment. All his thinking is misguided and very harmful. If he says coal is a good thing, we may be quite sure it’s a bad thing. In any case, the future of energy is solar panels, as we all know.

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                Comment by traducteur | May 4, 2015 | Reply

                • With solar panels you pay the corporate masters upfront, you pay more, and you assume all the risk that their promised service life will be achieved.

                  After decades of promises to become economic, if only brought to scale with subsidies, the technology is still hopelessly costly.

                  The environmental footprint of solar farms is orders of magnitude worse than power plants. Where is the awareness and concern about ecology on the part of the alternative energy sector? Missing altogether. They simply fraudulently claim that co2 is a pollutant and ignore all other environmental impacts.

                  Solar power is going nowhere if for no other reason than if it ever were to approach competitive pricing, carbon fuel producers would simply lower their prices.

                  The impression you claim to have of Lomborg’s book is contrary to what he writes in the article above. Perhaps you should read the article and then re-read the book.

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                  Comment by aletho | May 4, 2015 | Reply

                  • Just pulling your leg about the solar panels, Aletho, I know you don’t share my views in the matter. Western Australia would be a good place to install them, come to think of it. Maybe Lomborg, in his new position, will become a convert to solar.

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                    Comment by traducteur | May 4, 2015 | Reply

  2. One thing that I will agree with 100% on is that both alarrmists and deniers are pushing nuclear and fracked gas as a solution ‘ Neither one solves anything.

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    Comment by Marty | May 4, 2015 | Reply

  3. This is an interesting initiative:
    http://www.lfpress.com/2015/05/27/london-solar-panel-project-expected-to-save-lives-in-gaza-strip

    The Zionists will bomb the panels, of course. Solar panels are in widespread use in the West Bank, and Jewish soldiers and settlers routinely riddle them with machine-gun fire, partly for fun and to make the people’s lives more difficult (they do the same with water tanks, for the same reasons). All the same, it’s very promising, and gives you a glimpse of the fantastic potential of solar power. No grid necessary!

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    Comment by traducteur | May 27, 2015 | Reply

    • If one is so unfortunate or deprived as to have no access to grid power one must use exorbitantly expensive alternatives or go without altogether.

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      Comment by aletho | May 27, 2015 | Reply

    • Complete non-starter.

      Electric cars would require more Nuke Plants than could be supplied with uranium. Transmission lines would be omnipresent. Copper would become critically costly. Pollution from the battery industry would engulf the world.

      LNG will displace diesel then gasoline, this is now beginning to unfold. It will be both cheaper and cleaner.

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      Comment by aletho | May 23, 2017 | Reply


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