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Europe needs new NATO without US – Orban

RT | March 2, 2023

Europe needs its own military bloc free of American influence, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban told Swiss magazine Weltwoche on Thursday. The politician accused the US of dragging Europe into a conflict that cannot be won and risking a global war.

“The solution would be a European NATO,” Orban said, arguing that America’s desire for further expansion of its influence is what led to the current tensions between the West and Russia.

Moscow is concerned about NATO expanding further east into Ukraine and Georgia, Orban stated, referring to his conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin just weeks before the conflict between Moscow and Kiev erupted in late February 2022.

“Putin told me his problem was with the American missile bases in Poland and Romania and possible NATO expansion in Ukraine and Georgia,” Orban told the Swiss media, noting that the Russian leader was concerned about the US potentially deploying its weapons to these nations as well.

According to the Hungarian premier, that was one of the underlying reasons behind the conflict in Ukraine. “I understand what Putin said. I do not accept what he did,” Orban explained.

He insisted that Hungary should stay out of the conflict, but added that Budapest was subjected to “constant pressure” as other Western nations “want to drag us into the war through every possible means.”

Orban believes that this is because the EU is serving the interests of the US at the expense of its own. “Decisions made by Brussels reflect American interests more often than European ones,” he said.

Orban argued that Western nations need to demonstrate a true “desire” and “will” for peace in Ukraine, adding “that will is what is lacking today, at least in the West.”

Hungary has repeatedly called for peace amid the conflict between Moscow and Kiev, and has criticized the Western sanctions imposed against Russia and arms deliveries to Ukraine. Earlier this week, Orban said that the hostilities benefitted no one in the world. Hungary was also the only NATO nation to voice support for China’s peace plan for Ukraine.

March 3, 2023 - Posted by | Militarism | , , ,


  1. The U.S. turned down China’s peace offering because it is not interested in peace. Not until Russia is defeated. What that will look like nobody can say. But, Ukraine hasn’t the in-depth war-fighting capability to defeat Russia with or without NATO. Orban believes that too. And like many of us in the West, he believes NATO’s proxy war may end in WW3.

    President Putin addresses the war in Ukraine from that perspective with every speech he gives. But his warnings are falling on deaf ears in Washington and London. This makes it obvious the Anglo-American financial oligarchy is pressing ahead regardless of the situation on the battlefield. More and bigger weapons will only bring the world closer to thermonuclear annihilation.
    What is to be done?

    The anti-war movement needs to grow in Europe and especially in America. The small circle of Republicans who support Matt Gaetz’s R-FL bill to pull U.S. troops out of Syria can be expanded to include defunding Ukraine. Marjorie Taylor Green is strongly opposed to Biden writing any more blank checks to Ukraine. But almost all members of Congress support Ukraine and denigrate Russia while ignoring the root cause of the war in Ukraine in the first place. NATO expansion and the arming of new NATO members next to Russia’s border with missile defense systems that can be converted to offensive nuclear missile systems. This was a major issue leading up to Putin’s Dec 17, 2021 list of demands which included security guarantees from the U.S. that Ukraine would not be given NATO membership. But with $120 billion dollars in weapons and support, Ukraine is de facto in NATO and Russia has acknowledged it as such.
    What Orban fears most is that a nuclear war has already begun.

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    Comment by Thomas Lee Simpson | March 3, 2023 | Reply

  2. The un-united States of America supported the Bolsheviks, too. That ought to tell you all you need to
    know. The more things change, the more they stay the same.


    Comment by The Willpower | March 4, 2023 | Reply

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