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‘Finns & Swedes won’t benefit from NATO’

Samizdat | May 16, 2022

NATO membership won’t make Finland and Sweden more secure, but would likely see them fighting somebody else’s wars and hosting American bases, Dr. Jan Oberg, director of the Transnational Foundation for Peace and Future Research, has told RT.

“It’s a disastrous decision,” Oberg said on Sunday, following an official declaration by the Finnish government that it is planning to join the US-led military bloc. Hours later, a similar announcement was made by the ruling party in Sweden. The two Nordic nations stayed out of NATO during the Cold War, but their governments said Russia’s military operation in Ukraine has become a game-changer.

Finland and Sweden have failed to carry out “long-term consequence analysis,” he added. “Nobody seems to ask whether NATO is the right thing to join. After all these years since 1945, NATO has proven that it’s not able to deliver what taxpayers are paying for, namely stability, peace and security… and then Finland and Sweden say: ‘We’ll join this failed organization,’” he remarked.

“We have to ask ourselves: ‘Who caused the conflict [between Moscow and Kiev]?’ Everybody talks about the Russian invasion, which I deplore too, but underlying that is the conflict, which has to do with the NATO expansion,” the peace researcher said.

Making sure Ukraine becomes a neutral country that will never join NATO has been cited by Moscow as one of the main reasons for its ongoing military operation.

Oberg said he understood Russia’s concerns about the expansion of the bloc towards its borders. “If I was sitting in Moscow, I would feel that this was threatening,” he observed, referring to Finland and Sweden’s possible membership. “When you move troops up to the very border on both sides you increase tension; you decrease reaction time; you do all the things you shouldn’t do strategically if peace was your goal. Peace is not the goal of these people.”

The military-industrial complex – “those who sell weapons and profit from wars” – will gain from NATO adding two new members, he said. “The Swedish people and the Finnish people will not benefit from this. It’ll be completely new for them that they are now supposed to participate… in somebody else’s wars.”

With the US pushing for bases in Denmark and Norway, “are we to believe that there will not be American bases or American troops or something, you know, more permanent in Sweden and Finland?” he wondered.

NATO membership would also be “opening these countries for potential nuclearism that should never have been done in this particular area,” the peace researcher added.

Oberg said it was “appalling” that the governments in Helsinki and Stockholm didn’t put the issue to a referendum. “This is unheard of with such an important decision as joining NATO.”

While opinion polls have shown an overwhelming support for NATO membership in Finland, in Sweden the idea was backed by less than 50% of the public, he noted. “I’m amazed that there’s so little public discussion, so little uproar in terms of huge demonstrations in large cities in Sweden,” the scholar said.

He blamed the media, of which “80% to 90% is pro-NATO,” for this situation. “It’s very difficult to get into the media today with an alternative view… There’s no democracy and free media practice in this,” Oberg insisted.

Jan Oberg is a Danish-Swedish peace researcher, who received his doctorate from Lund University in Sweden. He taught courses in several countries, including Japan, Austria and Switzerland.

In 1986, the scholar co-founded the Transnational Foundation for Peace and Futures Research (TFF), an independent think tank aimed at promoting conflict-mitigation and achieving peace through peaceful means around the globe. He assisted on-the-ground work in ex-Yugoslavia, Georgia, Burundi, Iraq, Iran and Syria. In 2013, Oberg and TTF were nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for their activities.

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  1. Finlands PM Sanna Marin is a graduate of WEF and Magdalenas government in Sweden is run by WEF, so its all according to plan. Dont know about Finland but in Sweden everyone not in favour of NATO membership has been silenced and this type of dictatorial manors is something we are not used to, but of course majority of swedes are against joining NATO. Maybe Turkey will vote no and save us?

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    Comment by Per Wisten | May 16, 2022 | Reply

  2. Sweden’s and Finland’s citizens don’t want to join NATO. Their government is forcing this insanity on them!

    Liked by 2 people

    Comment by papasha408 | May 16, 2022 | Reply

  3. NATO, originally a Defence Pact between USA/Europe, has evolved into The USA’s “Attack Dog” in Europe. I cannot see this ending well, in the future……
    Vlad Putin has noticed this too, and he is letting the West know that they will not get away with menacing Russia, in The Ukraine…….

    Liked by 1 person

    Comment by brianharryaustralia | May 16, 2022 | Reply

    • This is what you get when you elect a 34-year-old WOKE-feminist twit to the office of the presidency!


      Comment by papasha408 | May 17, 2022 | Reply

      • Sorry, who do you mean?


        Comment by brianharryaustralia | May 17, 2022 | Reply

        • The Finnish prime minister!

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          Comment by papasha408 | May 18, 2022 | Reply

          • Thanks for that……Finland is ‘out of sight and out of mind’…..A bit like Australia is, to Americans.


            Comment by brianharryaustralia | May 18, 2022 | Reply

        • I don’t know what type of government Finland has. she is either a president or a prime minister!


          Comment by papasha408 | May 18, 2022 | Reply

  4. The Finns and the Russians have already had a “mini-War” with Russia. “The Winter War” began in November 1939, and lasted until March 1940. Russia invaded Finland but the finish held there own for about 4 months before the Russians gained control and the War ended. This war saw the arrival of the “Molotov Cocktail” invented by the Finns as an Anti-Tank device.
    The war ended in March 1940, but, the Finns showed that they could fight, but inevitably Russia prevailed.


    Comment by brianharryaustralia | May 17, 2022 | Reply

    • There is an excellent book on how the Soviets fooled the world during the Winter War by using outdated equipment and sacrificing hundreds of thousands of troops before finally overcoming the Mannerheim line. The book also states that Stalin was weeks away from attacking Germany and the rest of Europe before the Germans beat him to the punch on June 22, 1941. It’s called ‘The Chief Culprit,’ by Victor Suvorov. It’s well worth reading if you haven’t already.

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      Comment by papasha408 | May 18, 2022 | Reply

      • Thanks for that……


        Comment by brianharryaustralia | May 18, 2022 | Reply

  5. Most people ignoring “politicians” not because they are liying and taking briabs from USNato, military and corporations producing wapons to kill people you don’t have a chance ever meet, but because they are
    “Good” and don’t want to take any action, responsibility for them selves and others.
    Also, lack off education and understand that “politicians” killing people you don’t know first, then come for You and your family next.
    And will be no-one to help you.


    Comment by Alfa | June 8, 2022 | Reply

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